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by sudaca » Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:52 pm
SAVETHEPAST wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:55 pm /walltext
by Meru » Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:47 pm
SAVETHEPAST wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:55 pm as always all you've ever done is spread misinformation and smear Suda is a fascist.
by Brandon » Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:36 am
by cj_iwakura » Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:02 pm
Deep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:23 am SAVETHEPAST wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:55 pmYou guys are fucking delusional.Cry a river, wouldcha? The fact that you took your time to register and post here is beyond amount of bravery most of twitter people have, so that's admirable to say the least. I had no idea Iwakura were within a "WAR" among other ghm followers, so that's news to me.
SAVETHEPAST wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:55 pmYou guys are fucking delusional.
by Deep » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:23 am
by player1 » Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:12 am
水銀鬼神 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:53 am And most of these minors who were talking shit hardly know how to understand the difference between depicting problematic topics and endorsing them. That scene sure lacks tact if you consider the current standards, but I think it's a product of its time first and foremost. Just like Ashley in Resident Evil 4 or The Witcher games making you collect cards of nude women you had sex with. Playing old games also means you are consistently exposed to how culture used to work in the past, which means you might see shit that doesn't please you. I just think it's too big of a hysteria for shit we can find in any M rated game of the era.
by 水銀鬼神 » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:53 am
cj_iwakura wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:30 am I definitely think the "women are all the same" scene is meant to be problematic, the politician saying it is clearly a scumbag.
player1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:33 pm Do we really live in a time where we defend a fucking assassin? Like we say that when Garcian kills people it's ok that black man kills people for some reason and that's not fucking racist, but when we kill a black assassin as a white assassin then IT IS problematic? They ALL are assassins. If anything, they're SCUM to normal people. As white politicians. They were never portrayed as good guys, politicians as a whole. They ARE scum, they DON'T care about people. You're not supposed to self-insert into Travis either. Just because Suda started to pander to fans who think that Travis is literally them, he's a simp who killed people for a woman. He's not a cool guy, he's a pathetic dude.
by cj_iwakura » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:30 am
by Iwazaru » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:42 pm
by player1 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:33 pm
水銀鬼神 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:47 pm I don't know anything about CJ's ban, but I think criticizing someone for working for the police isn't the way to go if you look into a class conscious stance.
水銀鬼神 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:47 pm Besides that, I also dislike how people pretend that the scene "has no purpose", when the idea is exactly to show how Travis (and other killers like Nathan) disregard the collateral damage of their harmful behavior. It has a purpose in the overall game script's structure. No wonder the game later confronts Travis about what he is doing, the idea IS to show how Travis and Nathan can be self centered assholes who innocent people to achieve their goals, it's meant to be uncomfortable and exaggerated. I do think it was a really bad call to use one of the only bosses with afro-american music inspired design to illustrate this, but I do think it was more of an accidental choice than some kind of racist statement. Still, I do think that, if you put into perspective that it's a game released more than 10 years ago, made by Japanese devs that were basically inspired by western tropes, it makes sense that it would feature such offensive content. It's as if people were picking movies like Gone with the Wind and felt surprised that it had, in social terms, a lot of shitty things. Like... It's from another era man.
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