David Lynch Died
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:24 pm
I don't know where the fuck movie threads are supposed to go. I don't understand this site's layout at all. I initially posted this thread at Daydream Cafe but I felt it disrespectful to Lynch to have his thread surrounded by such tripe.
While I think most of the threads at the occult section are a joke (a lot of it sounds like retarded ass 4chan memes.), they at least follow a theme that could be considered as adjacent to Lynch.
Anyway, Lynch is dead! He's the only modern American celeb I know of where I was actually sad that he died. It felt like I got pierced through ma heart. The last two celeb deaths that ruined my day were Phoenix Rie (Rieko Kodama) and Antonio Inoki. I think the only other American death that I'd be saddened by to at least a similar level as Lynch is John Carpenter.
Lynch has been a great influence on my life, mainly because a lot of the Japanese games & animu that I grew up with back in the 80s & 90s were all influenced by David Lynch. Even Suda51 is a hardcore Lovecraft fanboy. (Suda liked one of my random Twin Peaks pics that I posted.) Classic SMT was heavily inspired by David Lynch (amongst other influences such as the Golden Dawn.), the Lynchian influences were mainly in the SMT If timeline (SMT IF, Persona 1, 2IS, 2EP, Devil Summoner 1, and Devil Summoner 2 Soul Hackers.) and is probably why I don't really give a shit about modern SMT. Modern SMT/Persona/Soul Hackers lacks both the occult and Lynchian influences. The last occult game was Devil Survivor 1 and the last SMT-Lynchian game was probably Nocturne. Which wasn't that Lynchian but it had a somewhat similar visual style as a Lynch film.
The Velvet Room of the Persona series is the last remnant of the Lynchian era of SMT. Thinking about it, I don't think I ever hear modern megaten fans ever talking about Lynch but I'd argue that modern Megaten fans don't even fucking play SMT/Persona, they just watch random youtube video essay losers and then form their opinion on the games based around their favorite nasally voiced, pimply nerd e-celebs.
It's the same exact issue that the Silent Hill fandumb has. It's really just a community of posers who refuse to play the original PS2 games, but then act as if the remake did a good job of remaking SH2. That's what I don't understand about the "Games as Art" crowd, they don't actually treat video games as art. They treat video games as disposable & replaceable products, similar to how a corpo would view a game.
This is the best Lynch Tribute that I've seen
by an artist who is one of the only interesting film reviewers that I know of since she never does the basic bitch thing of just quoting wikipedia (Which is what most Lynch tribute vids sound like.), this vid is just some bitch talking but she understands Lynch way more than the avg person does.
She's one of the few to have noticed that despite how bleak a lot of Lynch's films came off, that Lynch was actually optimistic and one of the last few artists from the modern era who isn't cynical at all. Modern pop culture in general is just a cynical outlash against the 1970s-2000s. The outlash doesn't even come off as natural though since most of us normal people loved and still love the media from that era, even Liberals from that era made a lot of good shit like Tarantino & Coppola.
I'm fucking sick and tired of cynicism, because being a cynic is often postured off as a sign of high intelligence when it really just comes off as contrarian-posturing to me.
She even brought up how Lynch never got political at all which has been used as a crutch by 'modern' artists who honestly have nothing to say. Even their political ideas just come off as bitch made Establishment marketing for the state. It will never stop amusing me how so many alleged American dissidents like to posture as some kind of commie but in reality are just a corpo-capitalist engaged in performative theatrics that has nothing to do with communism.
When you call these bitch asses out on that, they call you a schizo. I got called a schizo because I said that Hideo Kojima has typical Japanese Imperialist views (same views that I have.) that he dresses up with Communist Socialist aesthetics.
This is why you should never listen to internet. You can be 100% correct on your take but still be regarded as wrong because 100% of the English-based internet are nerdy ass redditors and the few who aren't are 4chan anons who aren't any better.
I ain't just calling out the wannabe commies, I also fucking hate the fake ass 'catholic' fascists who latch on to fascism because they think that fascists were some kind of hidden boys club where they can freely act like assholes and have the government on their side. (It's the same stupid mindset that wannabe gangbangers have where they don't realize that gangs view themselves as a micro-government, and the law. So often times these wannabes get murked by the same stupid gangs that they tried to join.)
Back in the early 1900s, Fascism was a post-modern right wing movement and was viewed as somewhat progressive relative to the era that it came from, similar to how communism is viewed as progressive. They both were, during the early 1900s.
The fact that a bunch of stupid kids are still larping as those two failed ideologies over a century later is just proof to me that kids of today have no imagination, intuition or creativity. All they know how to do is copy what a bunch of retards did in the distant past. I don't think I've ever heard a single one of these fucks mention HP Blavatsky once, when she was a great influence on a lot of the major political parties of the late 1800s - early 1900s which were all shaped by a belief called Scientific Illuminism.
What does Lynch have to do with this? Notice how he's not linked to any of these corny ass political affiliations. Only one that he could somewhat be linked to is Reagan-era cuckservatism but that just makes Lynch stand out even more because who could've guessed that someone like Lynch would attach himself to such a boring, stale boomer ass set of beliefs?
Lynch is such an old world, old school style American (Back when Americans were actually cool.) that I honestly would've thought that he was some kind of Anthroposophist or Blavatsky type instead of a lameass Reaganite. Lynch comes across as a man from the early 1900s rather than the modern era. He was born in the tail-end of the early 1900s but he grew up during the late 1900s.
Lynch was one of the only Western/Occidental people who was in this realm who understood the true nature of it, that we're actually living inside of a dream. (Modern terminology would be hologram.) Who's dream? Who knows, plenty of people think it's "God" (not to be confused with YHWH, the god of the West.), some others have more of a Lovecraft belief system and assume the dream is of some dead old god demon. The details doesn't matter really. All that matters is that you're aware that you live inside a waking world, that's actually a dream. Why this is important is because those who aren't aware of our temporary reality will often get far too attached to their materialist labels & resources. This is what causes extremism, because they think that they need to fight over the stupid political disputes that monkeys made up, and simians fight over.
None of this shit should fucking matter to you. Always walk towards your own path, all of those major political organizations that you imbeciles fight over? They're just fronts for corpos.
Even the recent Trump Elon Musk administration feels like a modern era version of the Anti-Freemason party from the 1800s. (Masons used to be common knowledge in the USA. Damn near everything that's labeled as conspiracy theory in the 2020s used to be everyday reality in the 1800s - early 1900s.)
In that, it's yet another populist faction of dissidents who claim to rally against the establishment but in reality it's just a bunch of rich fucks trying to fuck over the establishment rich fucks so that they can become the new rich fucks in charge.
Edit: Some old post I wrote about Lynch 4 years ago which was reposted byt Rake. IMO it makes a lot of sense out of Lynch's directing style.
While I think most of the threads at the occult section are a joke (a lot of it sounds like retarded ass 4chan memes.), they at least follow a theme that could be considered as adjacent to Lynch.
Anyway, Lynch is dead! He's the only modern American celeb I know of where I was actually sad that he died. It felt like I got pierced through ma heart. The last two celeb deaths that ruined my day were Phoenix Rie (Rieko Kodama) and Antonio Inoki. I think the only other American death that I'd be saddened by to at least a similar level as Lynch is John Carpenter.
Lynch has been a great influence on my life, mainly because a lot of the Japanese games & animu that I grew up with back in the 80s & 90s were all influenced by David Lynch. Even Suda51 is a hardcore Lovecraft fanboy. (Suda liked one of my random Twin Peaks pics that I posted.) Classic SMT was heavily inspired by David Lynch (amongst other influences such as the Golden Dawn.), the Lynchian influences were mainly in the SMT If timeline (SMT IF, Persona 1, 2IS, 2EP, Devil Summoner 1, and Devil Summoner 2 Soul Hackers.) and is probably why I don't really give a shit about modern SMT. Modern SMT/Persona/Soul Hackers lacks both the occult and Lynchian influences. The last occult game was Devil Survivor 1 and the last SMT-Lynchian game was probably Nocturne. Which wasn't that Lynchian but it had a somewhat similar visual style as a Lynch film.
The Velvet Room of the Persona series is the last remnant of the Lynchian era of SMT. Thinking about it, I don't think I ever hear modern megaten fans ever talking about Lynch but I'd argue that modern Megaten fans don't even fucking play SMT/Persona, they just watch random youtube video essay losers and then form their opinion on the games based around their favorite nasally voiced, pimply nerd e-celebs.
It's the same exact issue that the Silent Hill fandumb has. It's really just a community of posers who refuse to play the original PS2 games, but then act as if the remake did a good job of remaking SH2. That's what I don't understand about the "Games as Art" crowd, they don't actually treat video games as art. They treat video games as disposable & replaceable products, similar to how a corpo would view a game.
This is the best Lynch Tribute that I've seen
by an artist who is one of the only interesting film reviewers that I know of since she never does the basic bitch thing of just quoting wikipedia (Which is what most Lynch tribute vids sound like.), this vid is just some bitch talking but she understands Lynch way more than the avg person does.
She's one of the few to have noticed that despite how bleak a lot of Lynch's films came off, that Lynch was actually optimistic and one of the last few artists from the modern era who isn't cynical at all. Modern pop culture in general is just a cynical outlash against the 1970s-2000s. The outlash doesn't even come off as natural though since most of us normal people loved and still love the media from that era, even Liberals from that era made a lot of good shit like Tarantino & Coppola.
I'm fucking sick and tired of cynicism, because being a cynic is often postured off as a sign of high intelligence when it really just comes off as contrarian-posturing to me.
She even brought up how Lynch never got political at all which has been used as a crutch by 'modern' artists who honestly have nothing to say. Even their political ideas just come off as bitch made Establishment marketing for the state. It will never stop amusing me how so many alleged American dissidents like to posture as some kind of commie but in reality are just a corpo-capitalist engaged in performative theatrics that has nothing to do with communism.
When you call these bitch asses out on that, they call you a schizo. I got called a schizo because I said that Hideo Kojima has typical Japanese Imperialist views (same views that I have.) that he dresses up with Communist Socialist aesthetics.
This is why you should never listen to internet. You can be 100% correct on your take but still be regarded as wrong because 100% of the English-based internet are nerdy ass redditors and the few who aren't are 4chan anons who aren't any better.
I ain't just calling out the wannabe commies, I also fucking hate the fake ass 'catholic' fascists who latch on to fascism because they think that fascists were some kind of hidden boys club where they can freely act like assholes and have the government on their side. (It's the same stupid mindset that wannabe gangbangers have where they don't realize that gangs view themselves as a micro-government, and the law. So often times these wannabes get murked by the same stupid gangs that they tried to join.)
Back in the early 1900s, Fascism was a post-modern right wing movement and was viewed as somewhat progressive relative to the era that it came from, similar to how communism is viewed as progressive. They both were, during the early 1900s.
The fact that a bunch of stupid kids are still larping as those two failed ideologies over a century later is just proof to me that kids of today have no imagination, intuition or creativity. All they know how to do is copy what a bunch of retards did in the distant past. I don't think I've ever heard a single one of these fucks mention HP Blavatsky once, when she was a great influence on a lot of the major political parties of the late 1800s - early 1900s which were all shaped by a belief called Scientific Illuminism.
What does Lynch have to do with this? Notice how he's not linked to any of these corny ass political affiliations. Only one that he could somewhat be linked to is Reagan-era cuckservatism but that just makes Lynch stand out even more because who could've guessed that someone like Lynch would attach himself to such a boring, stale boomer ass set of beliefs?
Lynch is such an old world, old school style American (Back when Americans were actually cool.) that I honestly would've thought that he was some kind of Anthroposophist or Blavatsky type instead of a lameass Reaganite. Lynch comes across as a man from the early 1900s rather than the modern era. He was born in the tail-end of the early 1900s but he grew up during the late 1900s.
Lynch was one of the only Western/Occidental people who was in this realm who understood the true nature of it, that we're actually living inside of a dream. (Modern terminology would be hologram.) Who's dream? Who knows, plenty of people think it's "God" (not to be confused with YHWH, the god of the West.), some others have more of a Lovecraft belief system and assume the dream is of some dead old god demon. The details doesn't matter really. All that matters is that you're aware that you live inside a waking world, that's actually a dream. Why this is important is because those who aren't aware of our temporary reality will often get far too attached to their materialist labels & resources. This is what causes extremism, because they think that they need to fight over the stupid political disputes that monkeys made up, and simians fight over.
None of this shit should fucking matter to you. Always walk towards your own path, all of those major political organizations that you imbeciles fight over? They're just fronts for corpos.
Even the recent Trump Elon Musk administration feels like a modern era version of the Anti-Freemason party from the 1800s. (Masons used to be common knowledge in the USA. Damn near everything that's labeled as conspiracy theory in the 2020s used to be everyday reality in the 1800s - early 1900s.)
In that, it's yet another populist faction of dissidents who claim to rally against the establishment but in reality it's just a bunch of rich fucks trying to fuck over the establishment rich fucks so that they can become the new rich fucks in charge.
Edit: Some old post I wrote about Lynch 4 years ago which was reposted byt Rake. IMO it makes a lot of sense out of Lynch's directing style.
I'll quote something you had written on David Lynch, as this thread will become the place to discuss the great Mr. Lynch:
Jack wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:14 pm
[...] Lynch is actually highly spiritual, and what he's always been doing is tapping into our world's reality but he's looking at the planet from a hierarchal perspective where the Mind is King/Godly, or the Divine and that our physical reality is just a materialist translation of Lynch's spiritual journey.
A pure materialist version of a Lynch type of story would be his movie, Blue Velvet. Blue Velvet is just what Twin Peaks, MD & Inland Empire would look like when observing our planet through a materialistic lens.
Notice how Blue Velvet completely revolves around the desire for a woman, and a battle with crime syndicates which surround this woman. These objectives are materialistic in nature. Twin Peak's guy desires the love of that woman. The Mobsters only view her as a profitable service or merchandise.
Lynch's films, Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me, Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, & Inland Empire are all following a similar story as Blue Velvet but the aforementioned 4 go beyond the materialistic, and into the domain of the mind.
Some people interpret Lynch's post-Blue Velvet movies as purely psychological. Which I believe is an incorrect assertion of Lynch's films. Not that Lynch would confirm or dispute you since his visions seem to be very close to him, and doesn't want to have his own interpretation to be ruined or sullied by an 'official' canonical chronology of his movies' events.
What Lynch's films seem to represent in my opinion is how we are spiritual beings bound by a physical shell, otherwise known as the human body. Lynch's films operate off of an occultist understanding of the world which is The Physical plane, Ethereal Plane, The Astral plane, The Mental plane & the Godhead, but are completely blinded to it, due to our materialistic blinders which translate our visual & mental processes via the Astral plane into a physical canonical translation of reality via the Physical plane which can be best observed & recorded by multiple parties as the official history of events.
What Lynch's films always try to show to you is that our personal journey mostly occurs within the mind, a domain of gods, that's constantly being manipulated by demons via the physical world which in turn affect the mind.
Lynch is representing Archons within these scenes, which are meant to be the Ethereal plane.
The Ethereal is a transition phase between the Astral/Mental & our Physical observation of our surroundings.
This is why these Alien(Alien as in Foreign, not from your mind.) Demonic entities are often displayed in easy to relate to human-made architecture with some subtle fractal shapes & patterns such as pattern of the Black Lodge floor.
The Rabbits is interesting because it seems to be an Ethereal translation of a mundane physical/materialist reality.
It's the reverse of what his movies generally try to visually interpret. His movies usually follow a top down mental hierarchy. Rabbits from what I can make sense of it (LOL! I don't really understand that short myself.) seems to be from the bottom up, but it's stuck in an Ethereal limbo that's trying to be translated into an upper psychological level of the Astral.
This scene from MD, seems to be one of the few times where Lynch tried to represent the GodHead but he showed this visual as a physical reality that transitions into an Ethereal & Astral reality, until it makes its way up to a figure who never says a word, this figure is the Godhead.
In a pure materialistic sense, you could easily describe this scene as just a business meeting with very awkward & stilted dialogue with the CEO/top official or whomever (man who says nothing), listening in on the meeting.
The dialogue is very awkward for a reason, it's conveying to you that it's a physical reality undergoing the process of being translated into the ethereal until it eventually makes its way up to the Godhead, manifestation of reality.
The game Killer7 seems to also process reality in a similar way, via the Harman & Kun Lan characters, who are really just avatars of Godhood who influence everything, through the channels of our mind.
Lynch has never confirmed or denied any of this shit, but I bet you he'd be really interested in what you have to say about his movies, merely due to how you're not representing to him, a mere physical/materialist perception of his movies that he's no doubt heard millions of times. OH derp, his movies "are all just imaginary psychological dysfunction from the brain."
No, that's a materialistic-biased translation of what Lynch's movies are, generally made by those who live only to consume the products of the Beast (AKA the Big SixSixSix corporations), but have undergone zero spiritual journey at all.
In order to truly 'get' Lynch's films, you have to let go of materialism and stop assigning worth of what you see to be of equal to the value of how they would've been calculated in a consoomerist mental mind-frame.
TLDR: Lynch's films are a translation of his own journeys' of when he has travelled far beyond the veil. Lynch does this through his own spiritual leanings & breathing techniques. Other people can also reach this process through the consumption of drugs. Which is why people often make the claim "You need to be on drugs to actually like Lynch films!"
His films only seem to make the remotest of sense to those who have went on a DMT-induced trip.
Drugs are a shortcut though, and I don't believe Lynch does drugs. He's way too calm & mentally balanced. Which is why I believe that he taps into that world, of his own accord.
[...] Lynch is basically interpreting the world through an 'As Above, So Below' mentality. That which happens in your mind, is manifested into reality through your actions.
Lynch is somewhat similar to me, he's a Christian but he's heavily influenced by Eastern religions so his interpretation of the world is somewhat Buddhist-like due to his meditation techniques. (meditation is just a method of controlled breathing to focus your mind within the astral plane.)
I wouldn't be shocked at all if Lynch's films were really nothing more than Lynch's own Vision Quests, put into film.
Or at least an influence, since it's quite clear that Lynch's movies were mostly a criticism of the demonic predators who dwell within Hollywood with Twin Peaks, Muholland Drive & Inland Empire all being variations of how Hollywood preys on young womens' desire to be loved. Lost Highway was also about HW, but it's not a similar story as the other three since it's from a male's perspective which is why that plot is far more Mafia-influenced since men generally aren't as bound by instincts as woman are, to seek love from external sources such as the fame that Hollywood could provide you. [...]