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MADDEN 24 as an Prime Example of Today's Society

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am
by Deep


Angry Joe is a great buffoon among others on the YouTube.
He might be unstable, but he always brings some good points in his videos.
However, his actions (or rather, words) have no effect on the industry.
From time to time, he brings up MADDEN games as an example of how bad, shitty, lazy moderns EA is.
His point is that MADDEN games 20 years ago were great and modern are not.
While he provided legit criticism on the matter, his voice is unheard by EA, mostly.

Small little win (if you can call even it that), EA added more players appearances into game editor.
In 24 that is, when in previous years there were only a handful of choices.
However, on a greater scale, his actions are meaningless, because there is no next step in this movement.
Dev makes a shitty game - Joe says its bad - We laugh - We move on - Joe moves on - Devs move on - Rinse and repeat
While he provides some fun time for us, corporate slaves, our lives aren't changing that much.
EA keeps pumping same product with no regard to its quality, common folks keep buying it, because they conditioned to.
Nothing ever changes.

Can you fight it? Can you take away NFL licence from EA, so that they can't make MADDEN games anymore?
Do you need to? Joe will stop making videos about shitty MADDEN and will move on to make videos about some other monopolistic giga corp with no concern to quality of theirs product.
Current day capitalistic countries are suffering from unability to provide any meaningful ideology to common folks.
You don't need to go that far into any mass media, just take a look on modern movies.
While this topic is quite concerning, and our society is wastly deprived to point no return.
We still can try to move that giant boat, but you can't do it alone.

Can you, now? In internet age you need one famous talking head to start creating mass movements in people consciousness.
Does it affect others? How deep does it go? Has it any consequences on the world, or those who own it?
Can you be vocal enough about some issue to be heard? Or have some work done after that?
Is Joe big enough to take down EA? Of course not. In fact, I think companies this big have no care in the world about it.
Even thou States have been devouring itself for the past 100 years or so, with idealistic approach to every issue at hand;
Drip-feeding people with things like "work hard and you'll be successful", "you're special", "live for yourself",
"you got to believe in it", "just start working in your garage" bullshit.

That is going for decades now, full on generations already born with such ideas in mind and there is no sign of stopping it.
And the fact that there were no major societal breakdown since WW2 (9/11 is a tragedy, but also a joke) and Great October Socialist Revolution.
I think we're heading in the wrong direction (in general), but there is a chance of change (like ant trying to stop a ferrari on a highway).

The reason why we are here right now (not in 2023, but on a escapism mass product public web forum) is because we are so out of touch with reality,
with current status of global issues (I don't care if kids in Africa are starving, but I really should be), with current status of local issues
(do you even know your neighboors, how many people live near you, do you know them all, any at all), the fact that we have to block out
all that outside noise to have some piece of mind. Endless audio visual distraction too keep our nimble brain to be occupied with some other shit.
Individualistic narcissistic egoistic exsitance in capitalistic world brings up the worst in people.

Overall level of mundane hatred already hit it's critical points decades ago.
Stopping this gaint ball of antagonistic madness will do a great harm, people would just die from overwhelming hopelessness.
This is as devastating as professor from Sunset Limited paints his world.
Maybe I already became one, but that's not important here.

Will we continue to suffer neverending nightmare or just make kids, so they can rule it out because we can't?

There is a brutal quote from Soviet space engineer, Korolev - "Criticize someone else's work, offer your own. Offer - then do it".
I like this quote, but if I'm being honest, I don't apply it to my everyday life.
Part of it is horror and fear of consequences (because I'm being conditioned for it) of my actions and re-actions.
Part of it is weak will and lack of forcepower in sharing a light to other ignorant apolitic people, who have no desire to start thinking.
I can't really blame them, since this what suppose to happen in current system.
Or I'm too stubborn to start talking to everyone.
But that's no different from screaming to a brickwall, I'll move on.

Back to the Joe message about MADDEN.
If there is one thing I glean from early Soviet era, that would be a power of masses.
Can Joe stop EA from doing bad merican football games?
Does he wants to that to happen?
Will he go on rallys and demonstration in front of EA HQ to raise his voice?

He sits in his house and screams on camera for common folk amusement. That's it.
That's why I say that "his words have no effect".
You can think "looks who's talking, mr. deep. how deep did you go in your revolution?"
I'm in no power to criticize Joe or any other vocal member of our planet.
My input in world and social issues is abysmal.
I already know the endresult of such actions, and just dont want to throw my life away.
But who knows, maybe it worth a try.

Many will think that direct apporach and social gatherings do jackshit and old AF, but they really aren't.
Ever since the Roman times people were gathering together to fight opposing forces of other people.
Times surely changed, but fundamental core basis of the solution is still here.

"offer your own" However, in order to even start having people such bizzare ideas of fighting for the better future
you have to educate them hard and long enough, so every and each of them could built space engines in their's garages.
Class divide doesn't help and only will continue to suppress any thought process or emotional bursts of injustice.
Slavery wasn't really cancelled, they just made work contracts instead of it.

I do think deep and long about such topics, and maybe I should stop.
Just get married, drink beer and watch football with friends.
Because nothing happened in chiananmen square /patriot2
Keep living your delusional life of surrogate fulfillment. And I will too...

Re: MADDEN 24 as an Prime Example of Today's Society

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 1:18 pm
by anthony
Sportsball video games getting worse strikes me as a just and natural thing. This is like complaining that slot machines used to be prettier. The veneer is failing. These games are American Genshin Impact but devoted to something disgustingly mundane, as opposed to Genshin's superficial fantastical direction and premise. The idea of rendering this once halfway interesting and respectable game in a novel form you could appreciate at home with a controller might have been an interesting conceptual and technical challenge to nerds making games once. Now that it's all settled and the game just keeps getting worse it figures it'll collapse. Good.

If Joe were a real hero he would be petitioning to have the poor bastards working on these games liberated, their time and resources divided up into a diverse field of mid-low budget passion projects. Think of how many poor bastards grew up wanting to work for video games that are now stuck modelling D'Quarius Washington's nostrils for Madden 25.

Re: MADDEN 24 as an Prime Example of Today's Society

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:58 pm
by Meru
I was expecting something else coming in to this thread. I agree with the title.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am common folks keep buying it, because they conditioned to.
"Common folks" keep buying shit because they haven't been conditioned not to. You get fine things when you give the "common folks" what they don't want. Madden is the result of "common folks" getting exactly what they would demand in a vacuum.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 amCurrent day capitalistic countries are suffering from unability to provide any meaningful ideology to common folks.
I agree. I would start with ideas like "stay in your lane".
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 amThe reason why we are here right now (not in 2023, but on a escapism mass product public web forum) is because we are so out of touch with reality,
Art is not escapist.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am with current status of global issues (I don't care if kids in Africa are starving, but I really should be),
Why?
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am with current status of local issues (do you even know your neighboors, how many people live near you, do you know them all, any at all),
Yes. They're swine. I bet yours are too.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am the fact that we have to block out
all that outside noise to have some piece of mind. Endless audio visual distraction too keep our nimble brain to be occupied with some other shit.
This is not how you approach art. Stop lying. You are not the same as some Madden-person.
Spoiler
Then again, the Russians do seem to really like Serious Sam...
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am Individualistic narcissistic egoistic exsitance in capitalistic world brings up the worst in people.
Individualistic narcissistic ego is what produces valuable culture. Telling the public to go fuck themselves is essential. The alternative is Madden.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am If there is one thing I glean from early Soviet era, that would be a power of masses.
Definitely a fitting comparison, but not how you mean it.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am I'm in no power to criticize Joe or any other vocal member of our planet.
You're lying again. You know perfectly well that you're better than others.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am "offer your own" However, in order to even start having people such bizzare ideas of fighting for the better future
They are constantly fighting vigorously for the future they want, Madden-communism.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am you have to educate them hard and long enough, so every and each of them could built space engines in their's garages.
Another contender for the Barack Obama Medal of Faggotry.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am Class divide doesn't help and only will continue to suppress any thought process or emotional bursts of injustice.
The mixing of classes means valuable people are ground up as nutrients to feed the Madden-communist public.
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am Slavery wasn't really cancelled, they just made work contracts instead of it.
Slavery did end, unfortunately, but the slaves remain with all their drives and tastes.

Re: MADDEN 24 as an Prime Example of Today's Society

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:14 pm
by Deep
Meru wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:58 pm
Deep wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:18 am with current status of global issues (I don't care if kids in Africa are starving, but I really should be),
Why?
cuz its our and everyone responsibility to take care and watch over each other.
i can't be everywhere in the world at the same time, but people can be more friendly and willinful to work together
everyone is full of hate and agony, dumb, uneducated, drunk or high, on some drug they were fed to in order to "socialize".
you dont even know who your neighboor is, who you can even trust then to.
working towards same goals that will benefit everyone, not rich minorities. these alien ideas are unknown to the public,
then again no one teaches them on a massive scale about these issues and the matter of fact that you have to
dig your own way of living in order to comprehensivly understand fundamental ideas of current status of the world
requires immenise amounts of will and brainpower to do so. to learn and teach yourself these things.
unintentionally here and there people come to important conclusions, but it wasnt deliberate work as it should be.

its not something would want to spend their time on, even if their life would depend on it.
rare cases so occure, but ppl are lazy by default. you must punish yourself with struggle of learning.
as with everything in life if you take a slow pace and dont eat whole cake in one bite, you
can get there eventually, and hopefully bring your buddies along the way.
i think i really need to read some gebels books or start a new religon.
but im too buzy earning money for my own profits and spending time by wasting in on pointless hobbies.

Re: MADDEN 24 as an Prime Example of Today's Society

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:47 am
by Meru
You don't need to choose between vidya and starting a cult. TopDrunkee did both.