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Re: Souls-blight

by anthony » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:12 am

This was always mostly a language problem. If Sword of Berserk and Shinobi came out today western audiences would call them soulsbornevanialikes with reduced rolling mechanics. Because they are retarded.

The average "fan" has a completely vulgar idea of what From games are trying to do, which is why nobody can successfully make anything that feels like them. Evergrace and Armored Core 4 feel like Dark Souls. None of the games in that '40 games' video do.

From became the 'action game' template in the western mind, but the problem is the 'action game' template. The idea that broad classes of game exist that are inherently justified with a new superficial veneer on top. That's 'action game'. That's 'soulslike'. From games are not an 'action game system'. They're total works that use game systems as novel aesthetic vehicles. Everything about these aspiring clones is genuinely pointless because they see the justifying element being the 'soulsborne combat', and maybe also the 'world traversal' if they're ambitious. But that's obviously not how From go from nothing to a finished game.

What we have is a blight of idiots who think that a bare genre tag is a sufficient core to develop an entire project around. If it weren't for Dark Souls raping the western industry into submission these guys would be making mid-obama chest high wall cover-shooters. They are the problem.

Re: Souls-blight

by Krizzx » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:43 pm

Thank goodness for Duskbloods. It finally made people shut up about Bloodborne.

Souls-blight

by Krizzx » Sun Mar 02, 2025 4:00 am

Fuck, I'm sick of seeing Souls clones! Its like every other new game I see announced is a wannabe Dark Souls.


Like the fuck? 40 souls clones on 1 console?!


Whatever happened to just hard core action games like Ninja Gaiden, DMC, Sword of the Berserk Guts Rage or Shinobi?





Everything is Souls now. Any kind of action oriented game that has even the slightest bit of a challenge is now labeled a soul-like. It has replaced the entire action genre. Even Path of Exile 2, a modern Diablo 2 clone derivative, is now tagged a "souls-like" How the hell are Rain World and Cup Head tagged Souls-likes?

I'm also sick of hearing about Bloodborne. Its not that great. I finally played it on the PS4 emulator(because there is no way in hell I'm buying a PS4 for just 1 game.) For all the hype and obsession that game gets in Souls game discourse, it was just "okay." Sony fanboys hype that shit up to the stratosphere, and they are easy to spot. They call everything Souls"borne" instead of Souls or Soulslike. They want that one off game to be put on a pedestal so badly that they try to define the genre by it even though only 1 game is like it and as 1 off souls games go, Sekiro was better.

After seeing all the lore videos and people hacking it to pieces to find explanations for the obtuse story, it becomes clear that most of the interest in Bloodborne comes from people filling the plot holes with their own lore. The game was half finished when it was released and a lot of the story just doesn't exist. It was clear from some of the videos showing the beta and playtest builds with how devs still hadn't finalized large chunks of the game just 2 months before its release and how there is still placeholder content in the final game like the door to the bridge with the Cleric beast and the basement of door in Byrgenworth. Whole areas and boss fights were entirely different. They were struggling to get the game to run the PS4 hardware and had to keep cutting shit back, rewriting or scrapping content entirely.



Though, I suppose if they weren't cloning souls games, they'd be cloning Mosou or Monster Hunter games again. Most modern devs really have no talent or imagination.

Every once in a while you get something that took inspiration from Souls games but is mostly its own thing like Blasphemous or Hollow Knight( which themselves have started spawning knock offs

) but those are few and far between.

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