by Krizzx » Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:28 pm
WesleySnipes wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:04 pm
Krizzx wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:07 pm
They joined the EU for a reason, and none of those reason has been changed when they voted to exit the EU. So, they got stuck with the problem they currently had on top of the problems they had before, but now they had less standing and leverage on top of all of that.
what are those reason?
Im not british so I don't know.
Just because they've decided to leave doesn't mean they can't change their mind. let's give the EU leaders time to listen to the country they've helped create. I know they won't like it, but if they stay true to themselves and re-open the option of soft Brexit, let the EU leaders give them a chance. If they can't, it's time for Britain to call for a second referendum.
Physical resource limitations and size constraints. Its a reality of living on Earth that a lot of don't like to think or talk about. Especially corporations. There are only so many resources in the ground and so much space for people too live before you start running into issues. Britain is small compared to a lot of modern superpowers and not remotely resource rich. They thrived and had a empire during the technological revolution thanks to the coal industry which was something they did have in a abundance. They were one of the first to jump on the bandwagon and one of the least humane in pursuing growth and profit. That age is long over.
The whole reason that Britain colonized the most regions out of its mainland was because of size and resource constraints. The benefits of being in the EU was that international trade and travel was cheap with few restriction among other members of the EU. To live in the modern era with the comforts we are used to requires a lot of international trade for rare resources and minerals as well as manufactured good. This also means, of course, you have to abide by the rules of the EU. The British at the time of voting to exit the EU didn't like a lot of the rules the EU required them to follow. This is what led to them voting to exit. The biggest of which, I believe, was the issue of migrants moving in and taking jobs at a lower wage. The British blamed(scapegoated) them for their economic turmoil. Because whenever something goes wrong the first people to get blamed are almost always the ones who look different.
What they gained was freedom from having to follow the rules and legislation of the EU and business being forced to hire British....or so they thought. What they lost was low cost trade, privileges' in other EU countries as well as free travel to other EU countries and health benefits. They also found out that the reason why migrants were being hired was because the cost of production had become so unprofitable for smaller business trying to pay a living wage to British people that they basically had hire people they could get away with paying far less than what was deemed acceptable. Removing migrants didn't help at all, because the jobs were still low wage and no one wanted them. Removing competition for the jobs fixed none of the underlying issues of Britain's economic trouble and with the loss of cheap and easy international commerce, all of these problems became "even worse."
Funniest thing about this, is that this was primarily the same platform Trump ran on, and it produced similarly bad results economically by the end of his term.
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[quote=Krizzx post_id=4582 time=1710522465 user_id=56]
They joined the EU for a reason, and none of those reason has been changed when they voted to exit the EU. So, they got stuck with the problem they currently had on top of the problems they had before, but now they had less standing and leverage on top of all of that. [/quote]
[b]what are those reason? [/b]
Im not british so I don't know.
Just because they've decided to leave doesn't mean they can't change their mind. let's give the EU leaders time to listen to the country they've helped create. I know they won't like it, but if they stay true to themselves and re-open the option of soft Brexit, let the EU leaders give them a chance. If they can't, it's time for Britain to call for a second referendum.
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Physical resource limitations and size constraints. Its a reality of living on Earth that a lot of don't like to think or talk about. Especially corporations. There are only so many resources in the ground and so much space for people too live before you start running into issues. Britain is small compared to a lot of modern superpowers and not remotely resource rich. They thrived and had a empire during the technological revolution thanks to the coal industry which was something they did have in a abundance. They were one of the first to jump on the bandwagon and one of the least humane in pursuing growth and profit. That age is long over.
The whole reason that Britain colonized the most regions out of its mainland was because of size and resource constraints. The benefits of being in the EU was that international trade and travel was cheap with few restriction among other members of the EU. To live in the modern era with the comforts we are used to requires a lot of international trade for rare resources and minerals as well as manufactured good. This also means, of course, you have to abide by the rules of the EU. The British at the time of voting to exit the EU didn't like a lot of the rules the EU required them to follow. This is what led to them voting to exit. The biggest of which, I believe, was the issue of migrants moving in and taking jobs at a lower wage. The British blamed(scapegoated) them for their economic turmoil. Because whenever something goes wrong the first people to get blamed are almost always the ones who look different.
What they gained was freedom from having to follow the rules and legislation of the EU and business being forced to hire British....or so they thought. What they lost was low cost trade, privileges' in other EU countries as well as free travel to other EU countries and health benefits. They also found out that the reason why migrants were being hired was because the cost of production had become so unprofitable for smaller business trying to pay a living wage to British people that they basically had hire people they could get away with paying far less than what was deemed acceptable. Removing migrants didn't help at all, because the jobs were still low wage and no one wanted them. Removing competition for the jobs fixed none of the underlying issues of Britain's economic trouble and with the loss of cheap and easy international commerce, all of these problems became "even worse."
Funniest thing about this, is that this was primarily the same platform Trump ran on, and it produced similarly bad results economically by the end of his term.
