The Ninja Gaiden Master Collection makes me sad.
Sad because when I first played NG1 & 2 nearly 2 decades ago!, I viewed those games as the wave of the future. Or just the beginning of it.
Fast forward to 2021, I'm wasting $40 on some old ass shit, coz 2 decades later, the NG trilogy is still the best series of action games that you''re ever going to get. You don't beat up pinatas like you do in Bayonetta & Devil May Cry, or play through cinematic-kills like GOd of War.
Ninja Gaiden turned boys into men. In more ways than one!
I love how NG games don't revolve around combos at all. They're about killing your opponent before they kill you, so you play around with the idea of killing everything in one hit by chopping their heads off.
https://stinger-magazine.com/side-stori ... ja-gaiden/
This guide describes NG as dying slower than your opponents, which is basically the same as killing your opponents before they kill you.
Taking damage is good
Ninja Gaiden has no scoring bonus for coming out of a fight unscathed and there’s a reason for this. Especially within its later entries, taking damage is part of the fight. Once you accept this, the games become a lot less frustrating to play. The whole concept of Ninja Gaiden is to die slower than your enemies. There’s plenty of minor projectiles, off screen grabs or stray bullets that will graze you.
Going for a no-damage run in Ninja Gaiden is possible, but it doesn’t promote skillful play or interesting combat, as each fight turns from a tense melee into a cowardly test of patience. So take that hit, take the risk, and don’t reload every time you are hit or have to use an item.
The dangers of the Izuna Drop
While exceptionally cool, the Izuna Drop is quite the trap. Generally unsafe upon landing, it’s damage output was also decreased over the subsequent games and abusing it will not teach you how to play Ninja Gaiden’s ever so important ground-game. Use it, but don’t abuse it!
I disagree with them about the Izuna drop. I think you should spam the fuck out of Izuna, any chance you get. Especially If you consider yourself a real ninja, you only play on Very Hard & Higher. Don't be a Hero Ninja Dog Faggot! THOSE OTHER MODES DON"T FUCKING EXIST! Erase those joke lower difficulty levels from your mind or you'll never understand what truly makes Ninja Gaiden such a masterpiece.
(Obviously you should play normal if it's your first time, but for me Normal is easy & boring. it doesn't exist to me, coz I play on a level much higher than that.)
It's not as if you'll land Izuna everytime coz Itagaki's ai will actually roll out of the way, hitstun you,backstab you, they'll do anything they can to avoid getting Izuna dropped.
I don't understand what they mean about Izuna drop leaving you wide open. The Izuna drop has a huge AOE effect when it collides with the ground so most people within the vicinity are either dead, or have been flown completely out of your range after you hit the ground.
NG1 mastered game design. The level designs, enemy placement, combat flow, story pacing, adventure exploration are all unmatched to this day, and it fucking pisses me off.
I feel like one of those Boomers who grew up watching The Jetsons & Star Trek, and dreamed of technology from the future, which is why Boomers are so hooked on Facebook & Iphones and shit, coz to them, that's what the future looked like back in the 70s when they were teens & 80s when they were young adults.
In my case, I saw videogame being perfected back in the early 2000s, two masterpieces delivered by Oatmeal Cookie face, but there hasn't been another action game at Itagaki's level ever since, not even from Itagaki himself!
I understand why this is, it's coz game publishers realized that they could make more money by concentrating on marketing over game design. The end result is that we're still playing games that play like fucking PS1 games, but with Modern Era SJW graphics where all of the women are ugly & fat with pimples all over their fucking face.
It's just sad that I have to cling to oldass shit like Ninja Gaiden coz it legit feels newer than modern-era games that looked like they were made a decade ago.
Even something like Monster Hunter Rise looks like a 2012 era game, but that's actually one of the Switch's best looking games AYY LMAO!
Speaking of which, game quality is so low now, that I treat Monster Hunter like a king, coz it really is the king when compared to modern-era games.
Back in NG's era though, Monster Hunter would only be B-tier and Dark Souls wouldn't even be noticed, coz NG1 & 2 has just as much attention to backgrounds & aesthetics as the Souls games have.
Unless you get really horny over European architecture I guess, although NG1 revolved around a Pseudo European city.
In reality, Ninja Gaiden is a D-tier franchise when compared to Le Current Decade. Just look at NG MC's metacritic scores. NG is getting crucified on Steam. DAMMMN, people really don't like Ninja Gaiden.
That's weird to me, coz Ninja Gaiden plays exactly like how I envisioned Action games to play like back when I was a little kid playing Ninja Gaiden on the NES. Itagaki' Ninja Gaiden 2 plays like NES Ninja Gaiden but in full 3d.
Game marketers have done a damn good job at convincing gamers that only games that pretend to be movies are real games, because Ninja Gaiden is this relic of the past, but it looks more modernized, sleek, & pristine than modern games.
That's just fucking weird. It really shows to you that modern culture fucking sucks.
You sure couldn't get away with Rachel or Sonia/Sophia's designs in a modern game, they're both fucking gorgeous Blonde Hair, Blue/Green eyed White girls with pale skin and big ass & big titties, and their titties jiggle like KRRRAAZZY!
On top of that they dress like Pornstars. Rachel sure made me explode after she escaped the tentacle monster all wet,
and I was like HNNNNNNNNNNNG when you see Sonia/Irene Lew getting kicked on the ground and her curvy body is all jiggling.
FUCKING damn, Itagaki has damn great taste in women. Itagaki's NG1 Ayane is sexy, Rachel is Sexy, Momiji is Sexy, Irene Lew/Sonia is sexy, Russian Geisha girl from Devil's Turd is sexy, they're all 10 out of 10 prime grade AAAA meat. FUCCK!
I live in the USA, so I haven't seen a pretty White woman in a looooooooonnnggggggggg time. Not even on Tv, LOL!
Do they even exist? I sure as hell don't know. You don't even see pretty White girls on Billboards any more. I only see trannies & fat chicks.
Ninja Gaiden 1 came out the year that I became an adult, and holy fucking shit, seeing Rache it's like damn right I became a man after glancing at her.
Even back then I thought she was the finest thing I ever seen, and I still think that. Momiji also the finest the thing I ever seen. I only like Itagaki's Ayane though, her DOA self is meh. Itagaki was great at knowing what's considered attractive for a White woman & a Japanese woman.
NG2 mastered combat. NG3 was some shit prototype for that shit Last of Us or God of War 4 or some bullshit coz Ryu is out here acting like some surrogate father to some little girl, lol. What the hell were they thinking when they made NG3? I don't wanna see Ryu raising kids. WHAT THE FUCK!!!
Even Razor's Edge's combat is good enough, that you can overlook the massive change in focus that NG3 had ove the previous 2 games. NG3 got fucking weird man, they even scream Ryu's name over codec or whatever when he dies, like MGS. NG3 even tries to play out more like some shitty ass Western style cinematic game.
Although RE's combat is good. It prob nowhere as polished as NG1 & NG2. In the first two NG's, I can play at the highest default unlocked difficulty setting, and I'll blast through the first level without dying.
In RE, I constantly fucking die in the first damn level on Very Hard.
That's how you know it's not an Itagaki game.
Itagaki games have a rhythm to it, that once you finally understand, you just play alongside the beats.
NG1 has slower, counter based combat.
NG2 has my fave combat flow, coz it's straight up about obliterating your opponents.
NG3 RE, I can't really figure it out. I just press buttons and shit happens.
NG3 RE reminds me of Metal Gear Revengeance. they feel similarly clunky but RE has a bit more freedom to its combat since you're not required to rely on parries for most of the later half boss fights like you are in Raiden's game.
Scores:
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 10 out of 10
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 high 8 to low 9 out of 10
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge 8 out of 10
Nioh Complete Edition 9 out of 10. If a Ninja Gaiden 4 were made, it'll most likely have level design like Nioh which was similar to NG1 anyway.
Xed51 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:46 am
Krizzx wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:29 am
Gekido: Urban Fighter
Looks fun. I never heard of it. When I go back home I'll try emulating it (I'm currently stationed at my summer home because I don't want to die of heat stroke lol. Though I haven't done much work on the website this past week compared to the previous one because I had to order some new hardware and install it at HQ.)
Apparently it also had a 2d sequel that got re-released a couple of years ago which also looks entertaining, though I am not as big a conoisseur of beat em ups like other people here so for all I know it might be trash
It's fucking trash. There's no thought put into the mobs so you just murder through everything, everytime you power up a super move. Unlike in the The Takeover where it's a much better idea to save your supers & rages for when you really need it, so you use your gun to control hostile crowds instead.
Every console beat em up from the PSX era is garbage except for Guardian Heroes and some Japanese-only beat em up where you're fighting on a ship. I forget what it's called.
I was asked about current beat em ups at some other thread & I went fairly in depth about it.
I'd copy & paste it, but it's a long ass post.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8&p=1049&hilit=the+takeover#p1049
I'll just clip the end coz I wrote scores that I still agree with.
The Takeover= 7 out of 10
Streets of Rage 4= 8.5 out of 10
Fight N Rage= 9 out of 10
Although on Switch you can clearly see that I played SOR4 the most since I have over 70 hours in it and I'm still not bored.
I only have 20 hours in Fight N Rage.
5 hours in The Takeover. SOR4 has online mp & PVP which is why I played it the most. Fight N Rage only has couch co-op and it does have an arena mode similar to Guardian heroes. There's a ton of content to unlock in FNR, but SOR4 wins out for me coz it actually has online play. I have at least 10 people in my friends list that I met through SOR4. I also used to be in the top 20 of the SOR4 scoreboard when it first came out. (I was no. 17.)
Fight N Rage is the best designed game of the three, but only SOR4 allows me to show off my skills and play against other people in a death match.
The Takeover is the most accurate to the SOR lore & tone, but the game play is just merely good. The Takeover could easily be a 9 though if it didn't have to compete against Fight N Rage & SOR4.
SOR4 may even be a 9 now after the latest DLC. It ain't as good as the SOR trilogy, but it's a damn good game and it almost feels like a 2d version of DMC & Ninja Gaiden combat.
The Ninja Gaiden Master Collection makes me sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VufKvPtPCfg
Sad because when I first played NG1 & 2 nearly 2 decades ago!, I viewed those games as the wave of the future. Or just the beginning of it.
Fast forward to 2021, I'm wasting $40 on some old ass shit, coz 2 decades later, the NG trilogy is still the best series of action games that you''re ever going to get. You don't beat up pinatas like you do in Bayonetta & Devil May Cry, or play through cinematic-kills like GOd of War.
Ninja Gaiden turned boys into men. In more ways than one!
I love how NG games don't revolve around combos at all. They're about killing your opponent before they kill you, so you play around with the idea of killing everything in one hit by chopping their heads off.
https://stinger-magazine.com/side-stories/how-to-enjoy-playing-ninja-gaiden/
This guide describes NG as dying slower than your opponents, which is basically the same as killing your opponents before they kill you.
[quote]Taking damage is good
Ninja Gaiden has no scoring bonus for coming out of a fight unscathed and there’s a reason for this. Especially within its later entries, taking damage is part of the fight. Once you accept this, the games become a lot less frustrating to play.[b] The whole concept of Ninja Gaiden is to die slower than your enemies. [/b]There’s plenty of minor projectiles, off screen grabs or stray bullets that will graze you.
Going for a no-damage run in Ninja Gaiden is possible, but it doesn’t promote skillful play or interesting combat, as each fight turns from a tense melee into a cowardly test of patience. So take that hit, take the risk, and don’t reload every time you are hit or have to use an item.[/quote]
[quote]
The dangers of the Izuna Drop
While exceptionally cool, the Izuna Drop is quite the trap. Generally unsafe upon landing, it’s damage output was also decreased over the subsequent games and abusing it will not teach you how to play Ninja Gaiden’s ever so important ground-game. Use it, but don’t abuse it![/quote]
I disagree with them about the Izuna drop. I think you should spam the fuck out of Izuna, any chance you get. Especially If you consider yourself a real ninja, you only play on Very Hard & Higher. Don't be a Hero Ninja Dog Faggot! THOSE OTHER MODES DON"T FUCKING EXIST! Erase those joke lower difficulty levels from your mind or you'll never understand what truly makes Ninja Gaiden such a masterpiece.
(Obviously you should play normal if it's your first time, but for me Normal is easy & boring. it doesn't exist to me, coz I play on a level much higher than that.)
It's not as if you'll land Izuna everytime coz Itagaki's ai will actually roll out of the way, hitstun you,backstab you, they'll do anything they can to avoid getting Izuna dropped.
I don't understand what they mean about Izuna drop leaving you wide open. The Izuna drop has a huge AOE effect when it collides with the ground so most people within the vicinity are either dead, or have been flown completely out of your range after you hit the ground.
[b]
NG1 mastered game design. The level designs, enemy placement, combat flow, story pacing, adventure exploration are all unmatched to this day, and it fucking pisses me off.[/b]
I feel like one of those Boomers who grew up watching The Jetsons & Star Trek, and dreamed of technology from the future, which is why Boomers are so hooked on Facebook & Iphones and shit, coz to them, that's what the future looked like back in the 70s when they were teens & 80s when they were young adults.
In my case, I saw videogame being perfected back in the early 2000s, two masterpieces delivered by Oatmeal Cookie face, but there hasn't been another action game at Itagaki's level ever since, not even from Itagaki himself!
I understand why this is, it's coz game publishers realized that they could make more money by concentrating on marketing over game design. The end result is that we're still playing games that play like fucking PS1 games, but with Modern Era SJW graphics where all of the women are ugly & fat with pimples all over their fucking face.
It's just sad that I have to cling to oldass shit like Ninja Gaiden coz it legit feels newer than modern-era games that looked like they were made a decade ago.
Even something like Monster Hunter Rise looks like a 2012 era game, but that's actually one of the Switch's best looking games AYY LMAO!
Speaking of which, game quality is so low now, that I treat Monster Hunter like a king, coz it really is the king when compared to modern-era games.
Back in NG's era though, Monster Hunter would only be B-tier and Dark Souls wouldn't even be noticed, coz NG1 & 2 has just as much attention to backgrounds & aesthetics as the Souls games have.
Unless you get really horny over European architecture I guess, although NG1 revolved around a Pseudo European city.
In reality, Ninja Gaiden is a D-tier franchise when compared to Le Current Decade. Just look at NG MC's metacritic scores. NG is getting crucified on Steam. DAMMMN, people really don't like Ninja Gaiden.
That's weird to me, coz Ninja Gaiden plays exactly like how I envisioned Action games to play like back when I was a little kid playing Ninja Gaiden on the NES. Itagaki' Ninja Gaiden 2 plays like NES Ninja Gaiden but in full 3d.
Game marketers have done a damn good job at convincing gamers that only games that pretend to be movies are real games, because Ninja Gaiden is this relic of the past, but it looks more modernized, sleek, & pristine than modern games.
That's just fucking weird. It really shows to you that modern culture fucking sucks.
You sure couldn't get away with Rachel or Sonia/Sophia's designs in a modern game, they're both fucking gorgeous Blonde Hair, Blue/Green eyed White girls with pale skin and big ass & big titties, and their titties jiggle like KRRRAAZZY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThU1m5WHZG8
On top of that they dress like Pornstars. Rachel sure made me explode after she escaped the tentacle monster all wet,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3QNxMV5Bpg
and I was like HNNNNNNNNNNNG when you see Sonia/Irene Lew getting kicked on the ground and her curvy body is all jiggling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW3HzWDT72s
FUCKING damn, Itagaki has damn great taste in women. Itagaki's NG1 Ayane is sexy, Rachel is Sexy, Momiji is Sexy, Irene Lew/Sonia is sexy, Russian Geisha girl from Devil's Turd is sexy, they're all 10 out of 10 prime grade AAAA meat. FUCCK!
I live in the USA, so I haven't seen a pretty White woman in a looooooooonnnggggggggg time. Not even on Tv, LOL!
Do they even exist? I sure as hell don't know. You don't even see pretty White girls on Billboards any more. I only see trannies & fat chicks.
Ninja Gaiden 1 came out the year that I became an adult, and holy fucking shit, seeing Rache it's like damn right I became a man after glancing at her.
Even back then I thought she was the finest thing I ever seen, and I still think that. Momiji also the finest the thing I ever seen. I only like Itagaki's Ayane though, her DOA self is meh. Itagaki was great at knowing what's considered attractive for a White woman & a Japanese woman.
NG2 mastered combat. NG3 was some shit prototype for that shit Last of Us or God of War 4 or some bullshit coz Ryu is out here acting like some surrogate father to some little girl, lol. What the hell were they thinking when they made NG3? I don't wanna see Ryu raising kids. WHAT THE FUCK!!!
Even Razor's Edge's combat is good enough, that you can overlook the massive change in focus that NG3 had ove the previous 2 games. NG3 got fucking weird man, they even scream Ryu's name over codec or whatever when he dies, like MGS. NG3 even tries to play out more like some shitty ass Western style cinematic game.
Although RE's combat is good. It prob nowhere as polished as NG1 & NG2. In the first two NG's, I can play at the highest default unlocked difficulty setting, and I'll blast through the first level without dying.
In RE, I constantly fucking die in the first damn level on Very Hard.
That's how you know it's not an Itagaki game.
Itagaki games have a rhythm to it, that once you finally understand, you just play alongside the beats.
NG1 has slower, counter based combat.
NG2 has my fave combat flow, coz it's straight up about obliterating your opponents.
NG3 RE, I can't really figure it out. I just press buttons and shit happens.
NG3 RE reminds me of Metal Gear Revengeance. they feel similarly clunky but RE has a bit more freedom to its combat since you're not required to rely on parries for most of the later half boss fights like you are in Raiden's game.
Scores:
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 10 out of 10
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 high 8 to low 9 out of 10
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge 8 out of 10
Nioh Complete Edition 9 out of 10. If a Ninja Gaiden 4 were made, it'll most likely have level design like Nioh which was similar to NG1 anyway.
[quote=Xed51 post_id=904 time=1598006783 user_id=48]
[quote=Krizzx post_id=903 time=1597973388 user_id=56]
Gekido: Urban Fighter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HELsH5A15Jk
[/quote]
Looks fun. I never heard of it. When I go back home I'll try emulating it (I'm currently stationed at my summer home because I don't want to die of heat stroke lol. Though I haven't done much work on the website this past week compared to the previous one because I had to order some new hardware and install it at HQ.)
Apparently it also had a 2d sequel that got re-released a couple of years ago which also looks entertaining, though I am not as big a conoisseur of beat em ups like other people here so for all I know it might be trash
[/quote]
It's fucking trash. There's no thought put into the mobs so you just murder through everything, everytime you power up a super move. Unlike in the The Takeover where it's a much better idea to save your supers & rages for when you really need it, so you use your gun to control hostile crowds instead.
Every console beat em up from the PSX era is garbage except for Guardian Heroes and some Japanese-only beat em up where you're fighting on a ship. I forget what it's called.
I was asked about current beat em ups at some other thread & I went fairly in depth about it.
I'd copy & paste it, but it's a long ass post.
https://www.paradisehotel51.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8&p=1049&hilit=the+takeover#p1049
I'll just clip the end coz I wrote scores that I still agree with.
[quote]
The Takeover= 7 out of 10
Streets of Rage 4= 8.5 out of 10
Fight N Rage= 9 out of 10
Although on Switch you can clearly see that I played SOR4 the most since I have over 70 hours in it and I'm still not bored.
I only have 20 hours in Fight N Rage.
5 hours in The Takeover. SOR4 has online mp & PVP which is why I played it the most. Fight N Rage only has couch co-op and it does have an arena mode similar to Guardian heroes. There's a ton of content to unlock in FNR, but SOR4 wins out for me coz it actually has online play. I have at least 10 people in my friends list that I met through SOR4. I also used to be in the top 20 of the SOR4 scoreboard when it first came out. (I was no. 17.)
Fight N Rage is the best designed game of the three, but only SOR4 allows me to show off my skills and play against other people in a death match.
The Takeover is the most accurate to the SOR lore & tone, but the game play is just merely good. The Takeover could easily be a 9 though if it didn't have to compete against Fight N Rage & SOR4.[/quote]
SOR4 may even be a 9 now after the latest DLC. It ain't as good as the SOR trilogy, but it's a damn good game and it almost feels like a 2d version of DMC & Ninja Gaiden combat.
