D.G. wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:05 am
is there a single "fan" who just admitted on YT "Yeah, this game sucks ass and is the most unfinished shit ever?"
EDIT: i did not watch this shit, but since it's fucking 4.5h i guess its some analysis where he explains how deep the game is
It doesn't really matter, it's a feedback loop that sustains itself. Advertisers want their product to look good so they give review copies to people who they know will praise it, fanboys like to hear good things about the product they decided to project their entire identity on so those undercover marketers are the ones who get popular. There really isn't any incentive to shit on a new product if you're a career youtuber, unless you have a dedicated fanbase that gives you money for shitting on things (like every single star wars youtube channel which releases 4h breakdowns as per how self evident dogshit movies are, in fact, dogshit lol.)
What I think is funny is the use of inductive reasoning, which was considered outdated by 300 BC but has made a surprising comeback in recent years.
If No More Heroes 3 was the only videogame ever released by Grasshopper, noone would argue for it to have any deeper meaning at all. The idea that the game being shit is just a small cog in the complex allegorical mechanism only exists because 17 years ago they released Killer7 and there was a vague idea that the game had "depth" (although nobody actually knows what the fuck that word means in the context they use it in).
The conclusion is reached before any reasoning happens, that is to say, "the game is deep because Suda51 made it" so people start projecting allegories on whatever the fuck they want. Reasoning serves to justify the conclusion, rather than the other way around. Aristotle thought that was fucking retarded but what does he know. (I'm quoting him verbatim too. Aristotle said "No More Heroes fans are fucking retarded and should get laid, lol! LMAO!" with "lol" and "lmao" being enunciated verbally.)
The same exact thing happened when No More Heroes 2 came out, then most people came around and realized GHM was just going to make wacky action games going forward with the release of SotD and Lollipop Chainsaw.
I remember a user on our old forum made a joke about the overall journo attitude of reaching for meaning where there is none, I thought it was so funny I put it as a quote of enlightenment on the new website lol.
YES. I’m inspired. I found out the real meaning behind green watermelons, which is a matter that deserves much more attention than that given till now. People just don’t understand how smart and developed organisms watermelons really are. The Watermelon is an overlooked gem.
Yes, they are green. But not any kind of green you find in cucumbers or any other vegetable of that ilk.
A bunch of new fans latched onto GHM when they started re-releasing their more avant garde political stuff from the early 2000s, and I guess those fans are now in denial much like we all were in 2010.
Deep wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:21 am
D.G. wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:05 ami guess its some analysis where he explains how deep the game is
probably he does, but what else can we conclude, since all of the answers in those 3 different after release interviews, when suda just says it all.
Yeah they've been surprisingly open about how incomplete the game is.
Even if the game had been finished I don't think I would have been into it regardless, but it could at least have been an okay action game. I still think they made a mistake in trying to make a full fledged open world high-LOD game in 18 months. The finished product looks like an alpha build. I know you didn't like TSA either but that was at least a videogame that you played lol.
[quote=D.G. post_id=2680 time=1653375912 user_id=127]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bxNgGkZK2Y
is there a single "fan" who just admitted on YT "Yeah, this game sucks ass and is the most unfinished shit ever?"
EDIT: i did not watch this shit, but since it's fucking 4.5h i guess its some analysis where he explains how deep the game is
[/quote]
It doesn't really matter, it's a feedback loop that sustains itself. Advertisers want their product to look good so they give review copies to people who they know will praise it, fanboys like to hear good things about the product they decided to project their entire identity on so those undercover marketers are the ones who get popular. There really isn't any incentive to shit on a new product if you're a career youtuber, unless you have a dedicated fanbase that gives you money for shitting on things (like every single star wars youtube channel which releases 4h breakdowns as per how self evident dogshit movies are, in fact, dogshit lol.)
What I think is funny is the use of inductive reasoning, which was considered outdated by 300 BC but has made a surprising comeback in recent years.
If No More Heroes 3 was the only videogame ever released by Grasshopper, noone would argue for it to have any deeper meaning at all. The idea that the game being shit is just a small cog in the complex allegorical mechanism only exists because 17 years ago they released Killer7 and there was a vague idea that the game had "depth" (although nobody actually knows what the fuck that word means in the context they use it in).
The conclusion is reached before any reasoning happens, that is to say, "the game is deep because Suda51 made it" so people start projecting allegories on whatever the fuck they want. Reasoning serves to justify the conclusion, rather than the other way around. Aristotle thought that was fucking retarded but what does he know. (I'm quoting him verbatim too. Aristotle said "No More Heroes fans are fucking retarded and should get laid, lol! LMAO!" with "lol" and "lmao" being enunciated verbally.)
The same exact thing happened when No More Heroes 2 came out, then most people came around and realized GHM was just going to make wacky action games going forward with the release of SotD and Lollipop Chainsaw.
I remember a user on our old forum made a joke about the overall journo attitude of reaching for meaning where there is none, I thought it was so funny I put it as a quote of enlightenment on the new website lol.
[quote]YES. I’m inspired. I found out the real meaning behind green watermelons, which is a matter that deserves much more attention than that given till now. People just don’t understand how smart and developed organisms watermelons really are. The Watermelon is an overlooked gem.
Yes, they are green. But not any kind of green you find in cucumbers or any other vegetable of that ilk.[/quote]
A bunch of new fans latched onto GHM when they started re-releasing their more avant garde political stuff from the early 2000s, and I guess those fans are now in denial much like we all were in 2010.
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[quote=D.G. post_id=2680 time=1653375912 user_id=127]i guess its some analysis where he explains how deep the game is
[/quote]probably he does, but what else can we conclude, since all of the answers in those 3 different after release interviews, when suda just says it all.
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Yeah they've been surprisingly open about how incomplete the game is.
Even if the game had been finished I don't think I would have been into it regardless, but it could at least have been an okay action game. I still think they made a mistake in trying to make a full fledged open world high-LOD game in 18 months. The finished product looks like an alpha build. I know you didn't like TSA either but that was at least a videogame that you played lol.
